Comments on: Judge rules in favor of BOA in bed and breakfast lawsuit http://www.debfreakbast.com/archives/2005/05/27/judge-rules-in-favor-of-boa-in-bed-and-breakfast-lawsuit/ The B&B Industry Blog - Bed and Breakfast Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:50:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: tinasautry http://www.debfreakbast.com/archives/2005/05/27/judge-rules-in-favor-of-boa-in-bed-and-breakfast-lawsuit/#comment-36974 Wed, 23 May 2007 05:03:00 +0000 http://www.debfreakbast.com/archives/2005/05/27/judge-rules-in-favor-of-boa-in-bed-and-breakfast-lawsuit/#comment-36974 Just an update: 1. Yes, we joined OKBBA 2. We went to the city planner and had her approval and she testified for us. 3. We had plenty of parking and lots of spaces in the local area at churches etc. 4. We reached out to the neighbors in many ways including a party and talk session. NO ONE CAME.... 5. The house is across the street from the Frank Phillips Mansion which is a museum. This boiled down to a huge politcal debate. One local physician and his wife and one local attorney and his wife spent lots of money and used as many scare tactics as possible. I was very dissapointed that the local judge didn't see through this. They packaged it very nicely claiming that we would ruin the "historic" nature of this neighborhood. The attorney is on the state historical society board and was going to have the state historical society director testify. He didn't do it once he realized we had proof that they both had voted "yes" for the McBirney Mansion B&B in Tulsa. I got the last laugh. I sold this big house last month and made a mint. I think that the lies and distortions they told in the beginning have caught up to them as people have come to know us. It has shredded the reputation of the people who lied. The truth has gradually come out. Oh...and they worry about the "historic neighborhood". The Doctor put a cheap shingle on his house 3 days after he won the case. So much for worrying about the history!!! Go see the house at 1200SCherokee.com It would have made a wonderful B&B Just an update: 1. Yes, we joined OKBBA 2. We went to the city planner and had her approval and she testified for us. 3. We had plenty of parking and lots of spaces in the local area at churches etc. 4. We reached out to the neighbors in many ways including a party and talk session. NO ONE CAME…. 5. The house is across the street from the Frank Phillips Mansion which is a museum.

This boiled down to a huge politcal debate. One local physician and his wife and one local attorney and his wife spent lots of money and used as many scare tactics as possible. I was very dissapointed that the local judge didn’t see through this. They packaged it very nicely claiming that we would ruin the “historic” nature of this neighborhood. The attorney is on the state historical society board and was going to have the state historical society director testify. He didn’t do it once he realized we had proof that they both had voted “yes” for the McBirney Mansion B&B in Tulsa. I got the last laugh. I sold this big house last month and made a mint. I think that the lies and distortions they told in the beginning have caught up to them as people have come to know us.
It has shredded the reputation of the people who lied. The truth has gradually come out. Oh…and they worry about the “historic neighborhood”. The Doctor put a cheap shingle on his house 3 days after he won the case. So much for worrying about the history!!!

Go see the house at 1200SCherokee.com It would have made a wonderful B&B

]]> by: Bobbi http://www.debfreakbast.com/archives/2005/05/27/judge-rules-in-favor-of-boa-in-bed-and-breakfast-lawsuit/#comment-212 Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:51:00 +0000 http://www.debfreakbast.com/archives/2005/05/27/judge-rules-in-favor-of-boa-in-bed-and-breakfast-lawsuit/#comment-212 PAII is most helpful with these issues, citing many exisiting case studies regarding neighborhood concerns such as traffic patterns (less than a family of 4 with teens for example!). The studies, and I can not remember if they were included in membership (many are, some additional, all worth every penny!)were invaluable to us when we went to the city council for approval. I believe we included some info in the packets we presented to the members before the meeting because we asked for several variences. PAII's research and expertise is something I recommend for all inspiring and new innkeepers. Every town has it's own political 'dynamics' and I'll bet the Autry's did their homework, the paper doesn't report these things, but for those reading this thread and the dreaded zoning issues: I recommend they introduce themselves to their state guild and a respected industry leader like PAII. PAII is most helpful with these issues, citing many exisiting case studies regarding neighborhood concerns such as traffic patterns (less than a family of 4 with teens for example!). The studies, and I can not remember if they were included in membership (many are, some additional, all worth every penny!)were invaluable to us when we went to the city council for approval. I believe we included some info in the packets we presented to the members before the meeting because we asked for several variences. PAII’s research and expertise is something I recommend for all inspiring and new innkeepers. Every town has it’s own political ‘dynamics’ and I’ll bet the Autry’s did their homework, the paper doesn’t report these things, but for those reading this thread and the dreaded zoning issues: I recommend they introduce themselves to their state guild and a respected industry leader like PAII.

]]> by: Geraldine Geiger http://www.debfreakbast.com/archives/2005/05/27/judge-rules-in-favor-of-boa-in-bed-and-breakfast-lawsuit/#comment-208 Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:23:57 +0000 http://www.debfreakbast.com/archives/2005/05/27/judge-rules-in-favor-of-boa-in-bed-and-breakfast-lawsuit/#comment-208 Need more information. On what basis did the city deny their request? Need more information. On what basis did the city deny their request?

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